Is T:V worth it?

[CaptainBiggs]

Well since it's less then a 6 month rez, I don't mind posting :P lol.

T1 was the first online game I really got into. I had played Unreal and Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries, but it wasn't until T1 that I literally started working out battle strats in my notebooks at school (Before I had jsut daydreamed and read books covertly when the opportunity arose).

But after 3 years of T1, most people had jumped over to T2, and by July of '01, I was right there w/ them. Man, I remember those early days. I was one of the lucky ones who never got an error msg or anything, my copy was so bug free, it wasn't even funny :P lol.

Actually, I can't say I like T1 more, or less then T2.. The memories I hold closest to me are the ones I got from time with friends in both T1 and in T2. Although they were so vastly different, they both had the same idea. That ingenuity, teamwork, and communication will get you farther then you ever though possible..

I miss the old days :/

[Aldaron]

I miss the old days :/

Don't we all?

Starsiege: Tribes stands to this day as the only game I've ever button-mashed on. I don't even do it in UT2004.

[CaptainBiggs]

I got the DS tribe symbol tattoo'd on my arm tonight! That's gotta count for something!

[grey wolf]

I got the DS tribe symbol tattoo'd on my arm tonight! That's gotta count for something!

true geek. i am immensely proud of you.

[Mhaddy]

I as well. I knew you were talking about it, but I didn't think you'd actually do it, heh. Just waiting for it to heal to see some pics...

[CaptainBiggs]

Apparently there's not much to heal...

I took off the bandage this morning when I showered and there was no blood, on my arm or on the bandage, a bit of ink was on the bandage, but yeah. Other then that, it hasn't started to scab over yet, so pics are many and poorly taken lol

[CaptainBiggs]

tadaaaaaaaa

[Malox]

Dead thread , sorry for the bump

Is T:V worth getting ....... YES lol

Mal-

[Weatherlight]

To be the voice of reason with this ungodly necromancy: no. Tribes: Vengeance is dogshit and will remain dogshit forever. It is a terrible game related only to the Starsiege franchise by a few paltry names thrown about.

[BDUAres]

sigh. uber necro vampirism resurrection zombiefied aged multigenrational fruitcake thread

T:V on it's own is a decent game, especially in single player mode. It's only fault, if fault it was, is that it was 'different' than the other 2 PC Tribes franchise games, especially in it's game engine and storyline characters. Rather than make yet another clone of the original Tribes and call it Tribes 3, they actually did something different. Wow. Imagine that.

Those who took it as face value on it's own, without expectations of 'more of the same' liked it. Those who expected it, and wanted it, to look and feel just the same as the other 2 didn't like it because it wasn't more of the same old stuff.

[Weatherlight]

Pssht. As if. Tribbles: Vagrancies didn't have the first thing to do with Tribes. It was an affront to the storyline that had been worked on for so many years and didn't even start to match up with anything else in the universe. What? Didn't see the Children of the Phoenix poking at the ground with sticks? Sticks. Fucking farming without tools. Or bio labs. "We've got powered armor and generators and jump-packs but god no we can't fucking farm!"

Yeah, they tried a little too hard with the Earth = Rome / Tribes = Native Americans analogy. What? Bloodsports in the Colosseum? Bloodthirsty cannibalistic Blood Eagles? Yeah, they couldn't even do the Diaspora right. Where was my StarWolf? Were was my Diamond Sword? What are these crap UT2003 carbon-copy vehicles?

Tell me. Why would the Emperor leave Earth and tour the galaxy in an FTL ship that doesn't exist? Why did he even leave Earth? Why in the hell are the Children of the Phoenix, being one of the more peaceful ones, attacking an armada and succeeding? No. No, I don't buy that a small strike force without proper ships, or according to the game's own storyline, not enough tech to fuckin' grow food can go up against a battlefleet of the Emperor's finest and come out with a princess. Like the Immortal Brotherhood would allow this.

I'll even go so far as to buy Mercury's story, but I'll keep my receipt. I'll just go ahead and assume a Trojan Horse unit was deployed either by the Prometheans for the purpose of eliminating one of the Immortal Brotherhood or he just felt like it. Those Trojan Horse units are strange like that. The rest of it? The rest of it I want a refund on.


The storyline was raped like a thirteen year old boy at a NAMBLA convention. Raped and left in the sun to rot along with all the Children of the Phoenix who can't farm.

[Aldaron]

That's just story. There are very good reasons this quote is in issue #202 of Game Informer:

"Tribes: Vengeance, I think, was our worst game," Levine states frankly. "I don't think we loved or understood the franchise. It's one of those cases where you take a job - because you're a business and you need to take a job - and I don't think we did a great service to the Tribes community."

Irrational was hired to create a single-player, story based Tribes game. As any fan of the Tribes will tell you, this core concept is incompatible with the spirit of Tribes and what made the games popular. Regardless, that was what publisher Vivendi wanted, and that was what Irrational delivered with Tribes: Vengeance. It wasn't actually a bad game - it was just at odds with the community's expectations.

"You never know how something is going to be recieved," Wells observes. "Sometimes its easy to misjudge a small but extremely vocal group of superfans."

Levine adds: "In terms of our portfolio, I look at all the other titles and I see where they fit, and I still don't understand really where Tribes fits in."

Technical wise the game sucked, badly, as has been described many times over on these forums due to the modifications of the Unreal engine Irrational made.

If you have a couple bucks to waste it might keep your attention for a while, but you'd be better off purchasing a classic title from a console's online store or picking up a Kevin Smith movie in a $5 bin.

[Malox]

The game is fine , I don't understand the haters here and quite honestly WeatherLight makes me laugh.

It's a great game , easy to mod , map and skin for ......... it offers a gameplay many others don't.

Who gives a shit if it doesn't follow T1 and 2 as you wished it did , it's still a shit load of fun.

Mal-

[Weatherlight]

It's a great game , easy to mod , map and skin for ......... it offers a gameplay many others don't.

Certain people worked for years on the T:V engine only to throw up their hands in disgust and abandon it because it was so easy to mod (the direct quote is, "The engine is dogshit"). Its so easy to mod, it doesn't support any of the Havok tools even though the engine is almost a carbon-copy of the Unreal2 engine. The game's so great that it managed to kill an entire franchise. So great it sold a pitiful, pitiful 49,000 units and then was whole-heartedly abandoned. It took a storyline that had so much potential and sheer raw awesome and butchered it into some mundane love story on par with Titanic. I'm not even going to mention the limitations of the game or how poorly the maps were laid out.


If I weren't completely sure of the fact that you are somehow mentally incompetent I'd have to assume you were a troll and ban you.

[Steel Fire]

I have to totally side with James on the story issue. Never played T:V myself, simply because I was well aware ahead of time, from their own marketing, that they screwed the storyline.

Starsiege and T1 built the massive, powerful communities they did because of story and gameplay. For that idiot in Aldaron's quote above to say that a story based Tribes game was incompatible with the spirit of the community is utter crap. I would venture to say that had they not borked the storyline so totally they would have drawn back a lot of the old community that they pushed away when they began dismantling everything good in T2, and I dare say would have even drawn in some old SS players who would want to see that gap between games bridged. Combine the play style of T1 with an awesome single-player story and top it with a great multi-player experience and they would have been raking in the dough.

It's a well known fact that good games with a strong, compelling storyline will succeed. Make that game great and you've struck gold. They failed on both counts with T:V, doubly so.